that there's only so much that we can do there. there's only so much that we can, quote/unquote, win. so it's gonna be, you know, a question, and what you're gonna see a lot of debates on is to what degree does religion play into the future of afghanistan? what's the place of islam? what's the place of women's rights and human rights? and at some point america has to basically step aside and let them figure it out for themselves, but it's come at a very high, high cost. >> there was a, there was a situation in britain where the anglican church, the church of england, decided that women should not be able to be bishops. >> yes. >> continue their policy that they've been having,ea. >> and a big backlash on that. whe is that gonna go? eckstrom it's a fascinating debate, to me. and what you have is a new archbishop of canterbury, justin welby who's gonna be coming in, in 2013, and he is a big supporter of women bishops, as is the government, the prime minster and, you know, the outgoing archbishop of canterbury. here's i think why this debate matters. the church when it refused to allow women b